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Terry Laing offers some continuing reflections on ‘journeying’ as a pastor in ‘Learning from a Persian Journey’. The Chair/Moderator
of the Steering Committee has written a useful prospectus for the Gathering
in this year and the following. Please note the details, and plan your
schedule accordingly. While you are doing this, don’t forget to invite
a friend.
EDITORIAL Ray Hobbs British Evangelicals go for Hell A newly released report of the Theological Commission of Britain’s Evangelical Alliance is called The Nature of Hell. It demands a return to the preaching of a literal Hell, a place of eternal judgment for unrepentant sinners. As an aside it also affirms the position that salvation is possible only through belief in Jesus Christ. The report of the release of this document in the British Baptist Times (April 6, 200) is made with obvious approval. The report claims to be biblical and theological in its approach. It states ‘The gospels teach that heaven is the realm of God from which Jesus himself came to earth, and to which he returned after his death and resurrection. Jesus’ own teaching also stresses that heaven is the eternal reward of all who believe and follow him.’ In contrast to those who go to heaven, the ‘unrepentant’, the ‘wicked’ go to hell, which is ‘the domain of the devil and his hordes - a sphere of damnation, punishment, anguish and destruction’. Whether this is ‘biblical’ or not is a matter of debate, but I would doubt that it is. The important question though is not what is said or not said in the Bible, but ‘Why now?’ Why does this become an issue for biblical and theological scholars at this particular time. The document states that it presents an ‘embarrassment in an age that prides itself on tolerance’. No kidding! Is this a strange rewriting of a popular cliche - if you can’t win them, fight them. Its is surely the final refuge of the theological coward to condemn those people one disagrees with to an everlasting punishment by a vindictive and vengeful God. One correspondent in the pages of the Baptist Times wrote a detailed rebuttal of the document as reviving a medieval caricature of God, and another suggested that those who work against politically inspired torture of prisoners could hardly endorse the image of an eternally torturing God. Theology is not an abstract discipline. It must have something to do with life and the way we perceive it. The way we construct Theology says a lot about our world-view and the way we look at others. Such intolerance and wish for torture reflects more on the writers of this report and their supporters than it does on the nature of God revealed in Jesus. Ray Hobbs is Editor of the Gathering Newsletter, and a member of the Gathered Community at MacNeill Baptist Church, Hamilton. ANOTHER HYMN TO THE CONGREGATION, OR POST-CURRICULUM CHRISTIAN EDUCATION FOR POST-MODERN TIMES. Barbara Bishop When I was
ordained, my friend Heather gave me a book in honour of the event. It was
called The Impossible Vocation: Ministry in the Mean Time, and was
written by John Snow.
I say "amen", not so much because the vocation is impossible; as it often is, but because I find myself increasingly reflecting on the times in which we minister, and the impoverished models of ministry available to us. There is the minister as team leader. I've always disliked the expression. I actually once heard a Good Friday sermon in which the preacher cheered Jesus on and spoke of his "team" at the cross. Teams have head coaches who get hired or fired, and players who get picked or rejected. Look what that did to the Blue Jays. There is the minister as manager of volunteers. The job is to keep the committees working well, to recruit new members for them, and to oversee the projects they generate. We may incidentally take care of people on those committees, but we mostly do that to keep the church trouble-free and things moving smoothly. Productivity- that's the name of the game. The metaphor of the "wounded healer" has found its way to fundamentalist circles by now, but since fundamentalism appropriates culture without altering its own belief system, we have the therapeutic model of wounded healers weirdly affixed to the language of substitutionary atonement and all that punishment for sin. And there are other models of contemporary ministry:: the family systems analyst, the church growth guru, the small group facilitator, the administrative whiz, and the community outreach worker. The understanding
of preaching and liturgy varies with each of these models.
My own preferred image of ministry is that which, simply, respects congregations and pastors.. For me the actual and ultimate joy in ministry is about meditating and acting with my own congregation, and working alongside them, immersed in Jesus of Nazareth, who was "a metaphorical thinker, not a systematic theologian" (p. 171) This has always meant times of recovering our sense as Baptists that each congregation has its own ministry of Christian Education for real grownups. I grieve that we have handed over our Adult Christian Education to imported programs that at their worst numb our minds. Alpha programs have been a particular bugbear for me for some time, but I equally disliked Coral Ridge, the evangelism panacea that was such a dud in Canada. I dislike these canned programs because they exhaust us and they suck our blood. We feel energized, but our energies go into the organizing and setup of a theologically alien introjection. We may have spawned a few new church members (always a goal) but we run the danger of creating a new breed of itinerant groupies who Alpha-hop from one group to the next, and feel no need to hang out and struggle with a particular group. I met a few when I was home in Nova Scotia last November. For me, Christian
education in a Baptist church is about the community discipline and communal
joy of encountering scripture together and seeing more than someone else's
script. It is about finding there the fresh light and truth of God's living
Word in it, in us, and in our church.
MacNeill began over a year ago a Lay School of Theology to which the community is invited for elective units of learning about theology. Christian Education for real grownups that I have known also means spending time with enquirers who don't want it canned, but want to ask you tough questions and not have them smoothed over. It can mean a group study of a book like Jean Vanier's Becoming Human, or Douglas Hall's Why Be Christian? It can mean students teaching students. It can mean understanding your own spirituality and how that fits or doesn't fit with others in your church. It can mean
many things, some of which I've done, and many of which I still dream of
doing.
Barbara Bishop is Minister at MacNeill Baptist Church, Hamilton WHAT’S BUGGING BETHANY? (i.e. Baptist Church, Ottawa)? Isobel McGregor As if we didn't
have enough weeds to worry about, now a professional landscaper tells us
we have BUGS at Bethany. Bad bugs! Two kinds of bad bugs – our old friend
the chinch bug that routinely devours grass roots in hot dry weather, and
the imported white grub that demolished many of Ottawa's lawns last fall.
What to do? There are two basic approaches to this dilemma: The conventional
quick and deadly (Q&D) solution and the organic slow and lively (S&L)
The Q&D
solution – poison ‘em! This has many advantages. It's fast. It appears
effective, and best of all, it's good for business – the lawn chemical
business, that is. The down side is that, as Environment Canada says, "Pesticides
are poisons, or they wouldn't kill." The Q&D solution doesn't stop
with just killing the bad bugs. It kills the good bugs too, including the
myriads of
The S&L solution - discourage ‘em Organic gardeners and landscapers have come up with many alternatives to the "chemical cure". Undoubtedly, these take longer and you won't have a perfect lawn (perfect meaning perfectly bugless and weedless), but you will have a healthy lawn, healthier people and a healthier world in which to live. Here are some
tried and true ways of dealing with the bug problem the S&L way:
PLANT CLOVER. Joanie Flynt, an agricultural expert from McGill's Macdonald College, a committed organic (no chemical) grower, and giver of $200 weekend gardening courses, says "If you plant 50-per-cent grass seed and 50-per-cent white clover, the two crops will nurse each other." (Ottawa Citizen, Feb. 11/00)." It will be interesting to see how well the areas where the Greening Group sowed clover two falls ago have withstood the bug invasion. ATTRACT BIRDS.
Take advantage of the city's millennial and greening projects and plant
trees, berry bushes and shrubs. Build bird houses and bat boxes. Design
pools and wild life gardens that attract birds, frogs and nature's natural
predators, as well as adding beauty and
TOP DRESS AND
OVERSEED. If you must have grass, add a good layer of topsoil and compost,
and reseed the grub- ravaged areas (with a mix of hardy grasses and clover)
in the spring. Fertilize with a slow acting organic fertilizer in the fall
and follow the "10 Simple Steps to
ENCOURAGE DIVERSITY. Three years ago our brand new residential, chemically induced merion blue sod, put down by the city, was totally ruined by chinch bugs. We had the brownest lawn on the block, having neglected to water it during the heat wave. The following spring we paid an organic lawn care company to take care of it for one season. They top-dressed, seeded and fertilized organically. I sowed clover. Nature sowed dandelions, knotweed and numerous other accent plants. Last year, we had the greenest lawn on the block. Skunks took care of the grubs. Colin kept it neat by cutting it high and regularly. It wasn't "perfect" but in our eyes, it was beautiful! Useful information:
Postscript
"It is encouraging to know that a church supports this [BTE] program. The connection between human spirit and the rest of creation has always been an empty space in my church-going life." Caryn Wolf, researcher, BTE. "I'd like to
shout it from the roof tops, ‘We're destroying our world and we're not
doing enough about it. I wish every church and every organization would
have a similar [BTE] course and have mandatory attendance by all members!
Maybe our minister should preach about
"I appreciate
this opportunity of expressing my despair at the state of the earth and
in doing so, becoming empowered to live my life in faith and connection
with all of Creation. Meeting as a community in a church setting has enhanced
my experience as a faith journey."
"This has been
an enlightening experience. I found the group exercises in Befriending
The Earth very helpful in giving me a better perception of the ecological
movement and also in instilling in me a greater desire to help do my part
in preserving and healing the earth."
"So good to
be with people of similar ideas. Strengthens beliefs and gives us inspiration
to do more to save our wonderful world....Enjoyed the diversity [religion,
age, etc.] of our backgrounds."
"Being in a
group gives me the COURAGE and the SUPPORT to carry on the eco-therapy
work I would like to do. Wonderful connections have been created....all
part of the web of life.... so important for me that it is in the context
of a faith community."
"I've heard
a lot about your church and the good things it is doing for the environment.
I was impressed by the ‘No Pesticide' sign on your lawn and the ‘Befriending
The Earth' display in the foyer. It's inspirational to see a church walk
the talk! As a parent of a three year old I feel we all must do our bit
today to preserve the earth for our children and grandchildren."
"A subject
that few modern-day environmentalists have seriously considered...but which
is nevertheless of great significance, is the role that religion can and
must play in saving what remains of the natural world which is God's creation...."
Isobel McGregor is a member of the Gathered Community at Bethany Baptist Church, Ottawa. A PARABLE ABOUT FACING NEW (AND SOMETIMES FRIGHTENING) REALITIES... Anonymous When Tim moved
to Willowdale we were emancipated. Our parents had no interest in providing
transportation that summer so that 3 inseparable friends could continue
their mischief, and were reluctant to permit us to ride our bicycles several
miles along Sheppard Avenue, so we were allowed to ride the bus. By ourselves.
A whole new world spreads before you with a
Or, if funds
were scarce, the lobby of the Royal York which was a good place to cool
off until
The railway line was very active so we had no trouble turning pennies into copper wire by taping them to the track and waiting for the freight cars while we debated what would happen to us if we got caught defacing a coin. Or we would wrestle or play hide-and-seek or swim or jump off a low cliff into the sand below. Sometimes we would sit on the tracks waiting for the train, occasionally putting an ear to the rail so we could tell if something was coming and from how far off. Tim claimed to be an expert at this, able to tell us how long until the train would arrive, how many cars it had and how many engines pulled it. He wasn't always all that accurate about the length of the train, but he could usually predict it's arrival in about five minutes. It took Fred and I several attempts with our heads against the polished steel before we realized that Tim mostly listened for the train's horn at a level crossing 3 miles south. These were good, carefree days until we heard about the railway police. One day, one of the trains passed by a little more slowly while we were at the bottom of the bluff eating lunch. It was short, with a smaller engine and short cars, each with what appeared to be a cage in the middle. Tim grabbed Fred and me and pulled us behind some bushes. "Don't move-it's
the railway police!" "What!?!?" "The railway police: they grab you if they
From our vantage point we strained to see, and it did look like there were some kind of shorter people behind the bars of one of the cage cars. We waited behind the bushes until it rumbled out of sight and earshot. From then on we were on careful guard. As with any young person, we appreciated that getting caught and having to explain to your parents what you really were doing was a far worse consequence than a fine you would have to pay for defacing a coin. I confess that
I am not a first-timer daredevil. I prefer to watch someone else try something
and survive before I will try it. On the days when our boredom and confidence
increased, so did our foolishness. The sand bluff we jumped into had several
vantage points, and we would attempt leaps from more precarious heights.
Diving a couple yards feet first and then face first
It was a warm day-we should have been at the Island-and we were sitting by the tracks waiting to see what would happen to the quarters we had taped down for the next freight train. None of us heard it coming. There was no horn three miles away because there was no freight. All we heard was the rumble, too late. Tim leapt to his feet-the railway police! He and Fred took off down the tracks for the safety of the woods. I was like a deer caught in the headlights. Until I heard Fred yell "Run, or your parents are going to kill you!" The train was
too close. I couldn't make it. I was going to find out what it was like
to sit in a cage on a railway car. Unless I jumped-and it had to be at
least a mile down to the sand.
Anonymous is a very fine person, and a member of the Gathering LEARNING FROM A PERSIAN JOURNEY Terry Laing It has been a long journey. Of that there is no doubt. When the news came for the journey to begin, there was excitement mixed with some dread for the traveler. Even leaving a place of exile can be difficult. Still, when the call came, the traveler packed his or her belongings and began that long walk back to Jerusalem. The dream of returning to the city had been offered as a new possibility. Nothing could be greater than to be in Jerusalem next year. For Nehemiah, former cupbearer to King Artaxerxes, it was to be the central purpose in his life. On learning that Jerusalem is in ruins and that the survivors, "are in great trouble and shame", he bows before God to surrender himself in confession and commitment. He felt this irresistible pull upon his heart and his life to risk everything before the King of Persia to ask for release to go home. With the king’s permission, the long exile began to come to an end. The former captives were given leave to go home and to rebuild a once great city. All their hopes were brought into focus. Instead of saying, ‘one day, we will return’, the first day of their journey was the reality of that DAY. What was required was the faithfulness to complete the journey. We are not
told what happened on the journey home, other than for Nehemiah’s contacts
with local governors. The hardships of such a journey are not recorded.
We don’t know if the people were an echo of those who left Egypt, actually
longing to return to captivity rather than face the uncertainty of life
beyond. Did they understand that in following Nehemiah, they were also
answering a personal call to return home? On all this, the Scriptures are
Jurgen Moltmann said that, "To believe does in fact mean to cross and transcend bounds, to be engaged in an exodus. Yet this happens in a way that does not suppress or skip the unpleasant realities." Very few people can cross successfully from living with the hope of a dream to seeing its reality materialize within a moment. Nehemiah couldn’t. He needed three days to adjust to his present reality. The dream of coming home to Jerusalem had come to fruition. The ‘unpleasant realities’ were clear. There was a lot of work to be done, problems to be solved, dangers to be faced. The realization of a dream did not indicate that his job was finished, but only beginning. There are many lessons to be learned from Nehemiah’s experience, of having a sense of call and responding to the will of God. Lately, having lived through my own sense of ‘return’ to pastoral ministry after being ‘outside’ for over two years, my first reflections were of Nehemiah and his experiences. Like this leader of long ago, I have realized that you cannot just jump back into the rhythm of ministry as though you never left. It is one of
those ‘unpleasant realities’ to realize that life has changed. Those skills
that you took for granted need time and practice to become limber once
more. There is a lot of work to be done, which may seem like one is reconstructing
a city out of rubble. Yet out of a sense of daring to submit before God,
I must hold on to the hope and the promise that I serve a God who does
not believe in half way measures but who travels the entire distance with
me.
My ‘city’ and my task of rebuilding will not be the same as Nehemiah’s, but then it is not intended to be the same. Only the willingness to believe in God’s love, mercy and justice and to continue the journey faithfully, is expected to be the same. It may be that as Christians, we are forever ‘leaving something behind’ in order to press on to the goal ahead. At any stage, we need to follow the example of Nehemiah, to take the time to recognize where we are, to give thanks and then to plan for the future. These are but some of the lessons learned on my travels from ‘Persia’. Each ‘unpleasant reality’ has the potential to be turned into a new dream to offer new hope to people in need of great dreams. As I adjust to this ‘new’ life, possibilities are already arising. I can approach ministry with a new perspective and above all, I look forward to being home. Let us reflect
on our dreams and hopes and take the time to adjust to the cost of following
them. As we support one another and encourage one another, we have the
potential to build some great things together for the sake of Christ’s
kingdom. Such is my hope.
Terry Laing is currently Interim Minister of the Church in the Great Hall, Toronto. THE GATHERING GATHERS: PLANS FOR 2000-2001 John Furry Your Steering Committee is delighted to announce some different and exciting plans for our Gathering Meetings next season. By the way, I hope that by now, everyone has permanently recorded on the map of their brain, the fact that the Gathering meets twice a year, once in the fall on the last Saturday of October and once in the spring on the last Saturday of April. An earthquake, I suppose, could change those dates, but only if it measures high enough on the Richter scale! So what about next season? The fall Gathering, on October 18th, will take place in a different and inviting setting. Geoff and Dorothy Hear, known to many of you and kindred spirits, have invited us to meet at their country estate, at R.R. #1, Holstein (what a wonderful name!), north of Caledon. This get-away spot provides marvelous scenery, beautiful out door opportunities, good food, and more than adequate meeting facilities for our purposes. And it's only a couple hours from Toronto area, hour to hour and a quarter from Kitchener/Guelph area, etc. As is our practice at the Fall Gathering, we will meet and discuss within open space, facilitated by Bob Bond around the topic of the God who is leading us into the future. The Spring Gathering, on April 18th, will feature an exciting and notable speaker in the person of Dr. Phyllis Trible, about whom more information is given elsewhere. We have had very notable speakers before, but since those persons were either from our own group or from the area, we have not had to pay the price for the privilege. Dr. Trible will cost us more; she will be worth it. Fortunately we have been able to build up a bit of a surplus for such a purpose; as well, the Baptists of Ontario and Quebec for Peace and Justice have decided to make this event their annual conference and contribute something toward it, since some of Trible's interests (eg. the Texts of Terror) dovetail with interests of BOQPJ; in addition we hope to draw in participation from people beyond our own group and denomination. We'll be meeting at the new facility of Dundas Baptist Church. We hope these plans strike some chords with you, to the extent that you'll mark the dates in your books, and work these Gatherings into your schedules. John Furry is Minister at First Baptist Church, Woodstock,. Ontario, and Chair of the Gathering Steering Committee. International Baptist Theological Symposium ‘Baptist Tradition at the Crossroad - Analysis of the Present Situation and the Prospect for the Future’ 2nd to 9th July 2000, Prague and Siroky Dul. The first ‘PATEFO’ conference was held in early July in the Czech Republic. The name, an acronym, is derived from the full title of ‘Pankrac Teologicky Forum’, Pankrac (pronounced ‘Pankratz’) is the name of a district in Prague, and the location of the Pankrac Baptist Church who willingly loaned their name to the venture. The Forum arose
from a conversation in June 1999 between Ray Hobbs and Ladya Mechkovsky,
pastor of Pankrac BC about recent events in the Czech Baptist Union, at
IBTS and in other Unions in Europe and elsewhere. The pair decided to investigate
the possibility of a theologically responsible event which would involve
people from across Europe and North America with similar stories to tell
of unwelcome trends in their unions.
The atmosphere of the conference was excellent. Pastors and lay people who had been hurt by their unions and officials, joined to be nurtured by each other, and to seek ways of living responsibly as Baptists in these difficult times. Common themes were the centralization of power, communication and finances in a select few; the pressures on the educational systems of the unions to conform to a strict standard of thought and lifestyle; tactics of oppression and intimidation used against those who dissented; a continuing decline of respect and influence, as well as numbers among Baptists of Europe; the continued erosion of Baptist principles. The papers addressed the issues, and the discussions which followed shaped strategies and responses. The conference was a meeting of concerned friends. It meant much to those who participated, and provided inspiration and help. The participants decided that this was a beginning of a movement of careful assessment of the current contexts, an attempt to provide fellowship and mutual support for each other, and an opportunity to reflect and act theologically as modern Baptists. With this in mind, the year 2002 will see the second such conference take place in the Czech Republic. The suggested topic is the role and use of the Bible in current Baptist thought and practice. A web-page for PATEFO is being prepared, and among other things, the text of the papers will be posted. PATEFO resembles the Gathering in many respects. It grew out of concern for the distinct movement to the ‘right’ among European Baptists, the concern that in the desire to be of importance in the new Europe, Baptists were adopting the values and methods of the market-place, the concern that in the wish to have everyone ‘on board’ pressure to conform was increasing upon pastors, churches and members. PATEFO is dedicated to the notion that the true fellowship of believers can accommodate and learn from dissent and difference. List of papers (in the order they were given) ‘Being Baptist
and Responsible in the Present Day - the current situation in Canada’
- Ray Hobbs
*Josef Kulacik and Walter Klimt were unable to attend the conference, but lent their support to the event. Ray Hobbs NEWSWATCH Southern
Baptists downsize their plans for Chicago Evangelism Blitz
An official
of the NAMB blamed a lack of long-range planning for the size of the volunteer
force. However, in 2001 Boston and Las vegas will become the targets of
a mass effort like the one planned originally for Chicago.
McMaster
appointment
IBTS Loses
three of its ‘Directorate’
Dr. Davorin Peterlin, Academic Dean and Director of Biblical Studies, has announced his resignation, and will return to his native Croatia in the immediate future. Dr. David Brown, and his wife Ellen, American Baptist missionaries, but who also looked after Continuing Education at the Seminary will be leaving shortly, and Mr. Reinhard Geissler, Business Manager at the Seminary has already left. The departure
of these members of the Directorate means a loss of Eastern European and
North American representation on the administrative body. The remaining
members are predominantly British.
FBI Investigates
Florida pastor over supposed contributions to Prague Seminary.
Profile
of ‘Typical;’ born again believer
NETWATCH Each day new web sites appear on the Internet, and it is difficult to keep up with the growth. Below are some which readers might find interesting. http://www.bham.ac.uk/theology/goodacre/multibib.htmIs the ‘All in one Biblical resource’ compiled by Dr. Mark Goodacre of the University of Birmingham, UK. It is an excellent one-stop resource. http://www.uky.edu/ArtsSciences/Classics/lexindex.htmlIs a rather comprehensive site called ‘What do you want to know today?’ from the University of Kentucky. It contains more than you ever wanted to know about anything in the world! http://home.hiwaay.net/~lkseitz/math/roman/rn.cgi Is a linked site from the previous page, entitled ‘Lee’s useless Roman numeral converter.’ Well, you never know when you might need it. On a more serious note are the following sites linked to responsible stewardship of the earth, and supplement Isobel McGregor’s comments in this issue. http://www.web.net/cela - the web site of the Canadian Environmental Law Association. http://www.earthshare.org - a list of tips for the home and daily life so that one can live more responsibly as an earth-steward. http://www.ec.gc.ca, Although a Government of Canada (Environment Canada) site, it contains much good information, and links to other sites of importance. http://www.enn.org - The site of the Environmental News Network. Most of the information is from the US, but nevertheless contains some important material for Canadians as well. FALL GATHERING 2000 The Fall Gathering will take place on Saturday, October 28th, at the home of Geoff and Dorothy Hearn, Holstein, Ontario. The format
will be ‘Open Space’ and the general topic for discussion is: "GATHERERS
participating in God's preferential option for the future - a 'HOW TO?'
inquiry"
If you have
the opportunity, some preparatory reading will spice the discussion. Suggested
are:
The meeting
will begin a little later than normal, at 10.00am and end at 4.00pm.
Travelling
directions
Please inform Merle Caldwell (1-905-647-3504 or caldwell@icom.net) if you are planning to attend Note, if you want to enjoy some time in the area beforehand, nearby accomodation is available at Forest Plaza Motel (519-323-1101), Varney Inn (519-369-9982), Blue Manor B&B (519-323-4734 e-mail:jbiers@wcl.on.ca) and Navajo Springs B&B (519-323-2046). The Gathering Newsletter is published at least twice yearly Editor: Ray Hobbs Distribution: Barbara Bishop Editorial Board: Victoria Drysdale, Ray Hobbs, Daphne Hunt, Bert Radford and Barbara Bishop Feedback can
be directed to: The Gathering Newsletter c/o Ray Hobbs e-mail ray.hobbs@sympatico.ca
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